Comments on: Shoot first and ask questions later?

By: edythe

edythe — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:13:08 +0000

It doesn’t sound like miscommunication to me. It sounds like she had a bad day and took it out on Raoul. And then she continued to react pretty extremely.

I don’t get it. Unless there was some reason she disliked Raoul before this.

I can understand not wanting your photos used without permission commercially and/or for uses one objects to, but not where it concerns blogs and photo-collection sites. If that kind of thing is such a concern, then don’t put your pictures on Flickr. Flickr is a photo *sharing* site.

By: that jon jackson

that jon jackson — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:43:59 +0000

i can totally respect that. it seems as though a lot of us have the impulses to speak before we think. i think the illusion of anonymity, and the desire for self-validation, we perceive on the internet makes people feel the need to attack.

(one of the many flaws of human nature i think)

anyway, that’s all from me.

By: Raoul

Raoul — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:37:19 +0000

Jon, in most cases, I would agree with you. But for me, appreciation of someone’s photography is closely related to how I perceive them to be as a person. In this case, she’s made it pretty clear to me that I shouldn’t have anything to do with her through the way she conducted herself. And if you could only see the nasty comments that didn’t make it to the live site, comments made by her “fans”, who were very likely pointed to my post and let loose, you’d take a somewhat different view on the subject.

By: that jon jackson

that jon jackson — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:32:31 +0000

Well That’s one way to work it out.

I’m just saying even through perceived misunderstandings, there can still be value in a shared appreciation for each others talents, in this case photography.

That’s all i was saying.

By: Raoul

Raoul — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:22:08 +0000

There’s nothing to work out, Jon. It’s all been worked out already. It’s as plain as the writing on the wall, or in our case, this page.

By: that jon jackson

that jon jackson — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:53:45 +0000

I agree with simplyRik it sounds like a simple case of miscommunication. i don’t think on (albeit nasty) problem should be a reason to completely dismiss someone from future communications. You can benefit from someones talent without agreeing with or even liking them as a person.

But what do i know.

Hope ya’ll can work it out.

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WinExtra » From the Pipeline – 8.3.08 — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:54:27 +0000

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