My experience with Apple repair services

If you’re a contact of mine on Twitter then you know that I’ve had our iMac in for service since last week — more precisely, since last Monday evening, 10/29/07. I finally got it back last night, on 11/7/07, after 10 days of in-store service with the Apple Geniuses. I thought the repair time was excessive, and I was also unhappy with the general quality of the service received at the store. Read below for the details.

Background

You may also know that I wrote about my iMac’s unstable performance in the past. This repair was undertaken to fix those problems. Did it fix them? I don’t know. After getting home with it, and pressing the Power On button, it didn’t manage to boot up the first time, even after I waited over 10 minutes. Instead, its display kept flickering in differing shades of blue. I did a hard reset and then it finally made it to the login screen. We’ll see how well it performs over time. I’ll need to use it for a few weeks in order to determine if it’s been truly fixed, since the problems I had with it were erratic, not periodic.

Back when I posted about our iMac’s problems, lots of people suggested various things, here as well as at BlogCritics. A few Apple fanboys also got worked up about it and started barking, so that provided a nice bit of entertainment. Fortunately, there were some good people who were concerned and tried to help me, and that was quite nice. I tried most of the advice that seemed appropriate to me, but it didn’t seem to help much. I ran plenty of diagnostic tests, but they couldn’t seem to find anything wrong. I installed a few pieces of software to troubleshoot things or to run various cleanup tasks, but they didn’t do much, either. Strangely enough, our iMac got a little more stable with time, so we were able to use it well for another year or so.

The drop-off

As the second year of our Apple Care contract drew to a close, we thought about our dilemma, and as much as we depended on our iMac for daily use, we decided to take it in for service. I backed up all of our documents beforehand, just to make sure I wouldn’t lose anything, and I also created a separate admin account for the technicians, so I wouldn’t have to tell them my own login. I scheduled an appointment at the Genius Bar and sure enough, a Genius was ready to help me when I showed up with the computer.

The Apple Genius was very nice and tried to help troubleshoot what was going on, but after about an hour and a half, she couldn’t figure it out. She knew something was wrong, but couldn’t put her finger on it, so she suggested that we leave it for further checkups. We expected that, and we agreed. She wrote up a repair order and told us it would likely take a couple of days for the iMac to be fixed. That was the first goof. The second goof was not writing a real repair order and assigning us a repair number. We left the store naively thinking we’d soon get it back. How wrong we were…

It gets worse from here on, so if you’d rather not grit your teeth as you read through the stuff, scroll down to the end and get the summary.

The repair

Two days later, I call the store to find out what’s going on, since I hadn’t heard from them. The Genius had promised me that someone would call me, but no one did. That was the third goof. I find out that they’re supposedly ordering some parts, which will get there the next day, and it should be ready then. They promise to call me.

I wait for a call, which doesn’t come. Fourth goof. I call again, and this time I’m told that they examined it and decided to order some parts, which would take 4-5 days to arrive at the store. Then they’d install them and the computer would be fixed. But, I say, didn’t you tell me yesterday that the parts were already ordered and they were supposed to be there today? They didn’t know anything about that promise, apparently. Double goof there. Are you keeping count? That’s six goofs already. One because they reneged on their promise to have the computer ready that day, and one because they lied or misinformed me about the parts orders. I express my concern and am promised that it probably would take more like 3-4 days, not 4-5 days. They also promise to call me later that night with a repair number (finally). They actually call. I’m in shock and start to think they might be doing their jobs after all. They promise to call and update me in a few days. I jot down the repair number and thank them for the call.

I wait five days. Meanwhile, the repair number they gave me is no good, because nothing comes up on the Apple website when I type it in. That’s the seventh goof. Also, I get no calls. Eighth goof. I call and am told they’re still working on it. Apparently they’ve already replaced a part, the Bluetooth module, but they’re doing testing to see if they need to replace another part, the logic board. It should be ready the next day. They promise to call. They don’t. Ninth goof. I call them. It’s not ready, still working on it, will be ready the next morning. They’ll call me as soon as it’s ready. Tenth goof, because they didn’t have it ready when they promised it.

I call the next afternoon, since they don’t call me. It’s not ready yet. They’ve replaced the second part, they’re doing more testing. Again, they don’t have it ready on time. Eleventh goof. I suppose I could count the twelfth goof here as well, since they didn’t call when they promised they would. I start to seriously doubt whether they’re working or just goofing off and making stuff up just to cover their behinds for not doing the work. At any rate, they promise to have it ready the next day. I call the next day, and predictably enough, it’s not ready. Twelfth goof. They’re still “testing”, should be done within an hour or two. They’ll call me as soon as it’s done. They promise they will. I wait three hours. No calls. Thirteenth goof. I call and get told it’s ready. By that time, it’s too late to pick it up. I get ready to go pick it up the next day after work.

The pickup

I get there around 4:45 pm. The store is in chaos. There are Geniuses and attendants running around, but no one bothers to even give me a look. I wait patiently by the Genius bar while they brush past me. Finally, after 15 minutes, one of them looks at me, even though he’s been right in front of me for all that time, and I get to tell him what I’m there for. He points me to the checkout counter. So I’ve just wasted 15 minutes. I go wait in line at the other counter while the cashiers shuffle back and forth, literally dragging their feet on the floor. They must think it’s cool or something. They’re not tired, they’re doing it on purpose. Not only that, but one of them has his pants so low that they’re almost falling off. The entire back of his boxers is showing. If those things would be any lower, he could use the toilet for a #2 without needing to undress. He’s at the checkout counter, and keeps turning around and bending over to get stuff from the counters. Disgusting and unacceptable. Doesn’t the store have a dress policy?

After another 10-15 minutes, I get to speak to one of them. I hand him my repair slip, and he goes in the back to look for the iMac. He returns after 5 minutes or so, shrugs his shoulders and tells me he can’t find it, then he goes to ask one of the Geniuses where it is. I wait again. They explain to him where it is. He goes back and comes out after another 5 minutes and shrugs his shoulders again. Apparently, there’s no label on the computer, so he doesn’t know which one it is. This time one of them accompanies him to the back. They come out after another 5 minutes, and he apologizes to me. They’re still “testing” it. So almost 24 hours after they tell me it’s ready, they’re still “testing”. A likely story… At this point, I dig into him, clearly pissed off. I tell him to get me my computer, that it’s been at the store for 10 days and they’ve had plenty of time to repair and “test” it. I ask him to point me to the manager. He does, and he goes back to get the iMac.

I go to the manager and ask to speak to him. He looks at me for a moment but doesn’t budge. He’s too busy fiddling with an iPod to speak to a lowly customer. Finally, after a few minutes, he deigns to speak with me. I explain what’s going on, mention the dude with the falling pants as well, and he makes no apologies. He acts surprised, and decides to go back and investigate what’s going on. While he’s back there, my iMac has materialized on the checkout counter, so I go and stick it in the box I took from home. I pack it up, sign the repair order and, not bothering to wait for the manager who’s apparently going to take his time to “investigate”, I leave, fuming. It took me a couple of hours to calm down.

Let’s review

Here’s why I got upset:

  • The Apple Store broke promise after promise about when our iMac would be ready and fixed. They came up with all sorts of excuses. I lost count of the goofs, but there were definitely more than thirteen of them.
  • The total time they kept the iMac at the store was excessive. Ten days is MUCH TOO LONG. It was our primary computer, and we found ourselves hamstrung for that time. We couldn’t do most things we needed or wanted to do when it came to our home computing. It was VERY inconsiderate of them to keep it for so long.
  • They did not keep us informed of their progress during the repairs, and did not call like they should have or like they promised they would.
  • They did not fill out a proper repair order or issue a correct repair number, so I couldn’t keep track of the repairs on the Apple website.
  • Their customer service was terrible. No one offered to help me when I walked in, and when I finally got someone’s attention, he was so clueless he kept needing to ask others for assistance. In the end, I wasted about 45 minutes just to pick up a computer which was supposed to be ready to go the day before.
  • The store managers clearly don’t care about their employees’ appearance. To allow someone to show their underwear in front of the customers is not only disgusting but highly inappropriate.
  • The store manager I spoke with just didn’t seem to care much about solving my problem. Even though I’d left without finishing our conversation, I was clearly upset. If he truly “investigated” the situation, then he could have easily looked up my phone number and called to apologize. No such thing happened, but it would have been the appropriate thing to do.
  • No one bothered to do a proper hand-off when I signed the repair order. What I mean by that is that a Genius or someone knowledgeable should have explained to me what they fixed, and why it took so long. That DID NOT happen. I still don’t know exactly what they did to my computer, and it’s disconcerting to say the least.

My overall grade to Apple for this repair experience is a D. If it turns out that they haven’t fixed our iMac’s problems, then it’s definitely an F. The store I used for this repair service was located in Montgomery Mall, Bethesda, MD. If you’re in the area, you might want to be cautious and expect similar service when you use them, or possibly use another store.

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  1. Julie says:

    Hope you’re sending either e or snail mail to Apple about this. The chances are pretty slim that corporate isn’t entirely aware customer service-type of problems at a particular store unless someone contacts them. Most chains employ secret shoppers, but the odds of one being in the store at that particular time are not good.

    And why leave the house for that much crack when you can have the Norge repairman in? ;-)

    Comment — November 8, 2007 @ 9:27 am

  2. vaporland says:

    welcome to wacky apple store service Geniurd service. I suggest you find a competent, independent Apple Authorized dealer in your neighborhood.

    they don’t want to fix it, they want you to buy a new one. i’ve used macs since 1984, and the apple stores are great for buying stuff, but for fixing problems, not so good.

    Comment — November 9, 2007 @ 6:42 am

  3. Mark Wilson says:

    Repair is a very difficult area. There is no reason to condemn Apple as each situation is unique. I would of course, let Apple know your experience. Repair should never promise a pick up date. They can say it would normally be…, and give an estimate. And they should always call and return calls on status.

    Sometimes the part that Apple sends is bad. This especially true with items new to the market. eMacs were rushed to market to meet the school shopping season. The chips they used all passed inspection. However Apple does not replace a chip. They have boards. In the case of the eMac, some of the chips conflicted with each other, even thou they individually passed. A school for instance had to repair 10 of the 12 eMacs received in one order. The first two repairs received the same bad boards from Apple and soon also failed.

    The customer should always receive a real estimated time, but never be promised a finish time. If you can’t wait for a test to be finished, make sure that you call before you come to pick up a repair. Hey, stuff happens. You are busy, they are busy. Of course you should be able to check on status, if not on-line then with your technician. But the simple fact is a repair is done when it is done.

    If I was the manager and you walked away from me, I would not call you. I would assume that you were done with the conversation. I’m busy, I don’t need to call someone just to hear them vent.

    The one place where Raoul was wrong was to just show up at the store and expect service. How would you feel if you had an appointment at the Genius Bar and some customer walked up and demanded service on your time. Regardless if your repair is good, bad or indifferent, you have no rights over another customer with an appointment. Make an appointment to pick up a repair. It will take you less time than trying to get someone’s attention in a busy store.

    Some independent Apple service centers are great. Some are terrible. If you find a good one, use it. But they are at a big disadvantage as compared to the Apple stores. Apple sometimes has parts in stock. The independents must give a serial number before they can order a part. In other words, you must check in your computer and wait for a diagnostic test before the part is ordered. If you have a problem with Apple, the entire company is behind it to make it good. If you have a problem at an independent, you must deal with an owner that may or may not care about your business. In extreme situations where you got a Lemon instead of an Apple, you can get a replacement computer from either Apple or the independents. But the independents must wait for approval through Apple. Neither location will take a new product out of inventory. You get a refurb. Perfectly good, but not all brand new. After all you did not give them a brand new computer. Apple has these, the independents must wait.

    I will still go to an Apple store first. The turn around time is much less, parts are in stock and if I have an appointment, I’m treated well and in reasonable time. I’ve seen the owner of the local repair place lie and scream (literally) even is situations where the customer was completely in the right. But Apple will not authorize another independent in the area. At the Apple store I could at least ask for someone else.

    Comment — November 14, 2007 @ 3:08 pm

  4. Lily says:

    Hmm…I had to replace my iPod within its one year warranty, and although they did have several shortcomings, they got the job done, which, in other encounters with different computer companies, I’ve gotten so fed up that my repair has never happened. For example, I have a crappy Dell laptop (getting replaced with a MacBook for Christmas!!!) which needed a new hard drive after a half a year, they were horrible. Horrible. Did not work at all. I had to go to Best Buy and pay 400 dollars for a new hard drive.

    Comment — December 2, 2007 @ 4:20 pm

  5. Our iMac’s busted, again says:

    [...] Save it! Stumble it! Digg it! Twitter it! It looks like the Montgomery Mall Apple Store did not fix our iMac properly the last time we took it in. That’s on top of the 10-day wait it took them to order parts, [...]

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  6. Ian says:

    I’ve just had almost EXACTLY the same experience with my five-week-old MacBook Pro. The logic board apparently fried after, as I’ve said, only five weeks of use so I took it into the Apple store in SoHo NYC. My experience so closely matches the above that I won’t recount all of the gory details but will point out that the similarities are too close to be coincidental. “Testing” must be Apple’s euphemism for “sitting on a shelf collecting dust”. I’m a new Mac owner and this experience has definitely put the brakes on my initial excitement about my new toy. Apple has some work to do in this department.

    Comment — March 30, 2008 @ 2:30 pm

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