Caveat emptor: Davison Inventegration will just take your money
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Twitter itI’d forgotten about my bad experience with these people until they sent me some spam a couple of weeks ago. To return the favor, I’m going to tell you what I know of them, and believe me, it’s not pretty…
These days, they’ve got a new domain (davisongetresults.com) which acts as a forward to their old domain (davison54.com). They’re billing themselves as the inventor’s helper, and say they can “get your idea to market”. They’re still brandishing their “Inventegration” process, and they’re still puffing up their feathers about their proven experience of getting products to market. Check out the products they have gotten to market, and you be the judge of whether you’d call that experience. I have to chuckle at their marketing language: “Davison is fast becoming the industry leader when it comes to preparing and presenting new product ideas to corporations for possible licensing.” Compared to whom? By the way, surf the site to find out more about this Davison fellow, but you won’t find his full name or photograph anywhere. Does that begin to tell you something?
I’ll let you discover their website and judge it by yourselves. Let me not waste time and tell you about my experience. In ‘03, I had an idea for a new faucet and fell for one of their spam emails. I contacted them, got their information package, and, not knowing any better, decided to go ahead and try to use them. The first step was their “confidential and professional” evaluation of my idea’s marketability - in other words, they would let me know whether my idea was worth pursuing. Hey, sounds good, right? I decided to go forward. In a couple of days, they contacted me and told me in no uncertain terms that they thought my idea was wonderful, and that they’d love to help me sell it to companies. I notice now they’ve gotten away from that nowadays. On their site, they say: “Davison does not perform analysis of the potential feasibility, marketability, patentability or profitability of ideas submitted to it.” But they WERE doing this when I dealt with them. So I guess they discovered it got them into too much hot water and decided it wasn’t worth it…
After telling me how good my idea was, the fellow with whom I dealt, possibly Davison himself, proceeded to give me the hard sell. They wouldn’t go ahead without a professional market study. After all, how could they gauge my idea’s marketability without one? No matter that they had just performed a professional analysis of my idea, a market study was still needed before we got to the good part, where they prepared my idea and marketed it to companies through their “exclusive contacts”. The cost, you ask? Oh, a mere $800, or a little less than that. For me, since I was cash strapped at the time, Davison would be able to take $100 off. What a nice guy, right? So I waited, and waited, and waited, after putting the bill on my credit card, and finally got my “professional market study”. I still have it, as a memento of my foolishness. It’s a bunch of web pages, printed out and stuck in a cheap binder, some from retail websites, and some from the US Patent Office database, where did a simple query on faucets. Basically, it’s all stuff marginally related to my idea, that they searched hastily and printed out. I could have done this myself in about 1-2 hours, but I ended up paying about $700 for it instead, because my powers of judgment must have been sleeping then.
So I figured okay, this sucks, but let me see what the next step is. I called them - they didn’t call me anymore this time. Davison probably figured that if I’m moronic enough to want to go forward after that botched up job they called a market study, then I deserve to lose my money… So I called him, and asked him how we’d proceed. I expressed my disappointment with the “market study”, and he said, nonchalantly, that that’s how they’re done… Ahem… Then he said all the preliminary steps were done, and and all we’d need to go forward with right now was the preparation of my product, and that he had the facilities to help me with that. I asked, what about presenting my idea to companies? No such thing yet, he said. We don’t want to risk rejection of your idea. First we need to prepare a model of your idea, so they have something in front of them. I knew I shouldn’t ask, but I did anyway… How much would it cost? Only $10,000-12,000, he said. (!)
It was then I realized I’d been strung along and pumped for cash, because I’d been a fool. But I figured, hey, let me do my homework, right? So I told him I needed to think about it, and I hung up the phone. Then I did my homework, which I should have done months before, and learned my lesson the hard way. Davison is part of a group of many inventor helper companies that have sprung up recently, that will pump naive inventors like me for money. The fools that we are, we believe they’re really interested in helping us, when all they care about is getting our money to supposedly “package our product for the market”. Their fees are ridiculous, and they don’t care if our ideas are good or not, but we fall for it, because we don’t know any better. If you don’t believe, do a search on the internet for “davison inventegration” or “davison idea” and see what you’ll find. Here is a sample of what’s there. Even the FTC has a published brief that was filed against these crooks, for “deceptive practices”.
I was a gentleman with him back then. I called him a couple of days later, and told him I was disappointed with the so called market study, and that I wouldn’t go forward with their “inventegration” process. This whole dirty matter would have stayed safely in my past if they hadn’t spammed me. Well, if they’re so thoughtless that they won’t let sleeping dogs lie, I hope this teaches them a lesson, and it teaches you, the reader with an idea, NOT to use them.
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I have been in contact with Davison Inventegration about an idea I have, but haven’t signed an agreement or sent any money to them. I am researching them first,and appreciate the honesty about this co. being a scam, and ripping people off. Thank you, Jackie
Comment — June 11, 2006 @ 12:19 pm
I also had a bad experience with Davison Inventegration. I received an e-mail asking me for invention ideas, so I submitted my idea. I then received a call from a representative, who was very nice and eager to work with me until I told him that I did not have the $685 initial fee for researching the product. When I told the representative that I was not aware that this project would cost this much and that I wasn’t prepared to pay this amount at this time, he became very ugly with me on the phone and ended up telling me that they wouldn’t lose any sleep whether I went ahead with my invention or not. He ended by telling me not to call the company anymore. I am so glad I had this conversation before I was foolish enough to start filtering them my hard-earned money. This company is a scam and I hope others do research before giving them your money.
Comment — September 12, 2006 @ 11:46 am
Okay. So if Davison is illegitimate does anyone know of a more reputable source(s) for getting an idea to the market?
Comment — November 27, 2006 @ 2:32 pm
I have already invested money with Davison. I would like to proceed with the creation and patent of my invention, however I really don’t know how to proceed. Does anyone have an idea of how to proceed or a legitimate company to approach with it?
Comment — December 2, 2006 @ 8:34 am
Everyone should read the story “Forbes.com”
“inside invention land ” author Kerry A dolan
Comment — December 3, 2006 @ 5:28 pm
Hey Mark, I couldn’t agree more. Here’s the link to that article.
Comment — December 3, 2006 @ 5:37 pm
Thank you for posting this. I was interested in submiting my invention to Davison or Invent-tech. Glad I read this before making a big mistake
Comment — January 28, 2007 @ 12:57 am
I too, just emailed off an idea I had to the Davison INVENTEGRATION & then read these articles. After that I emailed my idea straight to the company that I had the idea for (as back up). This company should be investigated by the FTC & followed by a class action suit against them. Is there no one interested in bringing them down?
Comment — February 3, 2007 @ 10:44 am
I have already submitted an idea to Davison, after reading these comments I am hesitant about continuing with them. They already know my idea, can they use it themselves?? How do I stop them?? Can anyone tell me how to go about getting my product out there??
Comment — February 20, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
Joline, I would do a thorough reading of that agreement you signed with them, to see if they could use your idea. If they go ahead and use it without your permission, you could use that and any other documents you have to show that you came up with it.
To get your product out there, you could file a patent application (after doing thorough research on your idea to make sure it wasn’t done before — you can use the Patent Office’s online library for the searches) and as the patent is pending, you could start contacting companies the field related to your idea (if you want to sell it to them), or you could try and build a prototype yourself.
Then, go to trade shows and get the word out, and use a factory (out of country is cheaper) to manufacture it. Then you could either sell it yourself on a website and on eBay, or you could strike some deals with distributors/merchants here in the US, or both.
Hope this helps!
Comment — February 20, 2007 @ 8:14 pm
Recently i was on the phone with a guy from davison
and everything the man with the “faucet” said is
true. i have not sent any money yet,and
after reading the comments by the people here i won’t
be. but i have to tell you,the letdown is very heavy.
You think the product can go,they build you up and it’s just another scam. Well, you live and you learn. Too
bad people like us could’nt get together to make our
ideas and dreams come true.
Comment — February 22, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
I guess I was just about to make a big mistake! Thanks for the heads-up. But…I sure would like to know the process..or hoa to go about getting a provisional patent….or though I have a prototype, I will need manufactured pieces. How do I go about it? Any help appreciated. I will check back here for anyones ideas(knowledge)
especially for those of us whom are POOR.
Comment — February 26, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Not sure, J. Start with the US Patent office — call them or go to their site and find out how to get started with filing a patent application. Use your local library. I’m sure the librarian can help you find some books that will assist you as you file the patent application. As for manufacturing a prototype, a working model may or may not be needed, depending on the type of invention you’re working on. You could advertise on Craiglist for someone that makes prototypes or builds 3D models, and then come to an agreement with them on the price. Make sure to have a good non-disclosure agreement in place, and a contract that also makes it clear this is your product, not theirs — unless you’re willing to work on it together with someone else and share the profits.
Comment — February 26, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
I have spent close to 2,000 already with davison design. financial restraints have prevented my final committment for over 10,000 to submit my idea to companies. they have been awarded in business weekly last year. i thought they were legit. has anybody thought about a class action law suit?
Comment — March 13, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
I turned my idea into davison a while back when I spoke with a rep. for the first time I told him what my idea was and he was so eager to get my blueprint that I had made that he had me fax it to him the very next day , I felt uncomfortable with this but did any way ,Then Igot the agreement in the mail ,signed and returned it ,he then asked me for another copy of my blueprint, that puzzled me.Isent in 25 dollars toward the 685 cause he was so eager for me to get any amount down towards this now after reading this I am skeptical about sending in the rest of the 685 he is waiting eagerly for the rest of the money ,he says so we can start looking for cos.to present it to I dont know what to do after reading all this .Any advise for me. Oh I told him on the phone once that I had read some neg. things about them ,he said every co. has some neg. feedback. please give me some advice here I do not know what to do Iam single and do not have money to waste .
Comment — March 29, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Rebecca, I think you answered your own questions. If that so-called rep couldn’t even keep your original fax, and you had to re-fax it later, can you really trust them? And if all he’s doing is waiting eagerly for the money, and asked you to send in whatever you can spare, it seems even sleazier. If you don’t have money to waste, don’t waste them. Go your own way. Research what needs to be done at your local library and go from there.
Comment — March 29, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
Check out this site. All you do is register (FREE) contact them, there are forms to sign, etc., and you can “pitch” your idea to them. They have their own studio in NJ. Many infomercials are shot there, and it is an established company. The PITCH NETWORK has been growing for a number of years. http://www.thepitchtv.com or http://www.pitchnetwork.tv
Either site can get you there. The studio is
http://www.rollercoasterstudios.com
Comment — April 11, 2007 @ 9:49 am
I just got off the phone with the “director of new products” from Davison. He asked that I send in $685.00 to do a Patent Search and Product related search. I asked why I couldn’t get my own attorney to do that. He stated that if the companies whom wanted to lisence my product didn’t know the firm, then they would require it to be done again.
This alarmed me and I started to research on my own. THANK YOU all so much for posting your issues with them. You have personally saved me from making a huge mistake. To those of you who have mentioned “Class Action Law Suit”, I am on board if they use my idea. This whole thing is very scary. If they aren’t really marketing our products, where do these “ideas” go. We all need to keep and eye out for each other. Again THANK YOU.
Comment — April 18, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
I was also taken by Davison. Apparently I wasn’t smart enough to back out with only the $685.00 investment. I was thoroughly coned into about a $6000.00 loss. They are very skillful con artists in my opinion and I wouldn’t recommend anyone doing business with them. This has been about 2 years ago and I can’t even get a call back from them. Now looking back, they made me feel at the time that this was a deal of a life time on my invention. Now I realize that most of what they researched could have been done by my 8 year old daughter not to include the out dated references and multiple times they put in writing how they don’t stand behind anything they do. (Make up an idea and submit it to them I will almost guarantee they will be more enthusiastic about it than a new puppy). Please do your research before you deal with them don’t end up taken like I did.
Comment — April 23, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
I too was “interested” when I saw their very motivating website. I work as a paralegal and always do my research on any company who claims they could make me wealthy. Thank GOD I’ve only started researching them as of yesterday and found the ripoff report and have been forwarded to many additional sites that educated me on this enterprise of thiefs. How dare they take advantage of people who are trying to survive in life and have dreams of one day being able to say “I invented that”. To those of you who have been scammed by these people, I am so sorry. However am extremely thanking for your honesty so noone else is taken by them. I happen to work in a lawfirm which has patent attorneys and have been consulting with one who is willing to help me research the patent and if all goes well hopefully will assist in the application process. My idea is a large item and somewhat complicated. Where I come across a brick wall is: where do I go to get a prototype? I’ve considered doing one myself but am hoping to get something very professional which I don’t think I can do on my own. Thanks #17 (Joe) for the website you’ve provided. I haven’t gone into them yet but would also like to know if any of you have tried any company you think is worth looking into. Thanks again!!
Comment — May 22, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
Yes, I too was suckered in and do not have anything positive to say. Been a few years now and like the author of this blog, I have the original paper work to remind me of my foolishness. I believe that their was a class action suit but haven’t followed up on it. Sorry to see that they are still in operation and I still get angered when I read stories of their exploitation. I have a few choice words and actions that I would like to express about Davis but in this political climate, I will keep them to myself.
Kudos to this site and to all who speak out
Comment — May 30, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
I checked out the pitchtv thing and they ask you to agree to their terms and conditions, but when you click the t&c link there is a note saying they will be posted later. Sketchy. Anyone know of a real source with a real confidentiality agreement who will foot the bill for profits?
Comment — June 5, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
It is not necessary to patent an idea in order to protect your intellectual property. It is only necessary to detail by a legally- acceptable method what your idea is and the process by which you developed it. It’s not necessary to produce a working model. That can be done by a company to whom you license your idea for manufacture. They also have the pleasure of taking the idea through the patent process, if they think it’ necessary. You can find out all about the process from a group that is actually dedicated to helping people like us, and not interested in ripping us off. It’s called Inventor’s Assistance League International. Google the name, and you will find out all about the organization. It’s a non-profit, and you won’t find any negatives about it or its founder. There’s a very reasonable fee for their service, and they don’t keep trying to get more money from you. Just very helpful and professional.
Comment — June 16, 2007 @ 2:12 am
i am currently in contact with Bill Harrison at davison.
i do not trust him thats why i looked for this website.
Bill is saying the exact same things i see going on here.
i plan on telling him off when he calls me next week to tell me that he has got solution to my problem,mind you i never gave him permision to do so.thank you.
Comment — June 26, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
Use a provisional patent folks it cost you about $100 and gives you a year to pre market the product. Also spend some time reading Patent it Yourself by David Pressman and ISBN# 0425194094 The Entrepreneur’s Guide to Patents, Copyrights, Trademarks, Trade Secrets & Licensing (Paperback)
As you will learn a lot more with a lot less money then they shady characters that try to exploit those not in the loop.
Comment — June 28, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
Kelly if you already told him the idea and did not put in a Pro Patent if he does it before you and develops a product before you your out of luck. You have to understand that the United States has the oldest patent laws in the world and with that the most flawed in the world. This is one area where the USA lags the rest of the world and is planning on revamping to catchup with the rest of the world on the rules of ownership to property rights.
Never ever give out and idea to anyone unless they are right in front of you with a non-disclosure agreement being signed and to make it better video tape it all at the same time. The meeting, signing etc…
Comment — June 28, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
After rading the article Davidson Integration they just take your money posted by Raoul Pop I feel that I could my own research to market my invention. I submitted my idea by email on June 27, 2007.
It is a SIMPLE IDEA and with a big potential of BIG INCOME forever and ever and ever.
This is my QUESTION. What if the use MY IDEA, because I haven’t file for it. What should I do next? It’s there anybody who can mentor me on this one?
I just received a reply mail from them, and they say that soon they will contact me. I am glad you posted this article on the web. Thanks to all of you.
Comment — June 29, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
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Glad I found this site $685.00 later. Luckily,I haven’t shelled out anymore money. Does anyone know another company that would be able to do the job that they claim to do only honestly? Everyone seems to have the same experience. How many Directors of new products do they have anyway? The one I spoke to was named John D’alessio? Interesting.
Comment — July 4, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
I just invested over $12,000 in this “so called” inventegration process. It makes me almost sick to read all these commentaries from poor people like me. I even have the $100 patent that was to last a year (which is almost timed out). My ‘director of new products’ was supposedly Tom Gallegar. The reason for my disbelief came when I called the 800 number after hours to leave Mr. Gallager a message and a young girl answered the phone with a simple HELLO! She then said she had an extension of the same phone line in her bedroom. If there ever is any kind of lawsuit against these crooks, someone please let me know. J. Ward
Comment — July 10, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
Ok, I received my letter signed by the “big guy” Mr. Davison himself. I received a call on Friday 7/06/07 that they had GREAT news! A company has been targeted for my product! They did disclose the name of the company in the letter. Of course I came up with nothing when I tried to find them online. I would assume my next enthusiastic call will be for the big money to get the prototype going. What is next for me? Anyone? I can’t beleive the actually get away with this!
Comment — July 11, 2007 @ 7:21 pm
I’m so sorry for what happened to you Raoul. And thanks a lot. You just don’t realize how many you have saved through this blog.
Comment — July 11, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
Michelle, I would be highly suspicious of that offer from Davison.
Milani, thank you! Glad to be able to help others!
Comment — July 11, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
thanks for the heads up on these crooks.
Comment — July 16, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
I just hung up with Chaz Januzzi at Davison. Submitted my idea over a week ago and he called today. Tomorrow he’s sending me my ‘contract’ and I have to return it with a check for $685 for Davison to do R & D (Patent search, competitive product search…). I wasn’t completely sold so I did some research and found this site. THANK YOU!!!!!!
I instead went to Inventor’s Assistance League International website. It’s a non-profit 501C that’s been in business for 45 years. They have a program (which includes Pre-Patent Protection) for $395 + $10 shipping. With that you receive 3 manuals : How to Protect your Idea, How to Find a company for your idea and a Resource Guide. The $405 also includes the services of 1 year of the Assistance League for any questions, advice, etc…. My package will be mailed tomorrow via FedEx and I will receive it in 5 business days.
ALSO…Davison was just fined $26 million dollars for Invention Marketing Fraud, which they paid…and they are still in business!!!!
Best wishes to you all…
San
Comment — July 18, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
Thanks for posting all this juicy stuff about davison guys. I got took last year by a different company they got me for 6500. I feel like Im getting on the same roller coaster Any ideas about where to go???
Comment — August 1, 2007 @ 2:46 pm
Raoul, I received my package via DHL with the info for the company that is interested in my product per Mr. Davison. First of all, I cannot find them anywhere and they did not list the products that they already make. I also had payment plan options as to how I could pay out the 13,000.00 they need inorder to put my product into production. Are they kidding? I can’t beleive they are still in business! The fortune article just about says it all. Thank you for sharing your valuable information about these crooks!
Comment — August 2, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
Oh My God! I am freaking out! It’s 2:30 am. And I couldn’t sleep because I received a call from a New Product Rep. at Davison by the name of (Robert Pender). He was very short with me but wanted to set up a phone consult tomorrow for 20 minutes. I have read all the comments on this page and I am really worried. Like so many of you guys I received an e-mail urging me to summit my idea and how it would be protected. First let me tell you I am a small business owner and I have limited finances. I thought that if I was up front and informed Davison of my finances. I was seeking a backer to market my idea, and I thought they would not contact my asking for money.
My idea has been such a secret that my own family was kept in the dark. I know my idea does not exist, and I know it will make someone millions! I’m worried! Is that going to be Davison? I am hoping they will toss out my idea because I plan not to speak with them tomorrow. I just called their after hours answering service and let them know I was canceling, and I would be calling our family attorney for advice. I want to thank everyone for taking the time to share the step by step deception they have experienced. You are all thoughtful people! May only goodness come your way and best of luck with your inventions.
Comment — August 8, 2007 @ 3:52 am
I guess I am alittle jaded or just older but I decided to Google the guys before contacting them directly. Thanks to everyone for your honest feedback!
As inspired as I was about having someone help me over the hump of creation I did not trust sending or speaking my idea to strangers on the internet. I just learned of an idea that I discussed with various entrepreneurs 2 years ago that is now in the stores…
Need I say I will not be contacting Davison?
But, I will keep trying…and I hope all of you will, too.
Comment — August 8, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
Well, well, well, the plot thickens!
For a complete up date on what is going on with the FTC lawsuit against Davison call (216) 263 3434 (This is a HOTLINE that was set up by the FTC to handle all the calls that they were getting about Davison - pretty bad when you have to have your own HOTLINE)
They will be making a settlement (apparently), but the details will not be public for a few more days. This is not a solution to the problem as they seem to be doing the same thing all over again - even before the settlement is finished! They need to be shut down!
Comment — September 4, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
tks for a great website.
if this had been pre-google i would have been 13k$ lighter in my pocket.
good luck all!
Comment — September 6, 2007 @ 9:40 am
I am soooo enoyed I have told the davidson group of my idea and thought I would look them up! Wel thank you to you all I understand how silly I was. My Idea could work so well I’m hopeing I can mini patent it before they use it.Shame there is soo many dishonest people in this world and how can they sleep at night?
Comment — September 9, 2007 @ 2:06 am
My Davison representative is/was Frank Fischer. I should have been suspicious when his business card didn’t even have an email address on it. His explanation was that they deal in very sensitive information(!) I wish I Googled these ‘developers’ a bit more before I parted with my $685. It was only after they got my money they told me it would take an investment of $10,000 to produce a prototype of the device (which I had already done!)to present it to a corporation. But it’s best to cut one’s losses than pump them up with my hard earned cash. I can’t believe they are still in business. It is and will be very difficult for someone with a great idea to get it to market. Unfortunately Davison preys upon these people and comes on with the sincere approach that they are there to help you. Help you part with your money, that is. Live and learn.
Comment — September 12, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Hi, I emailed my idea all the way from South Africa. Had “Director of New Products” Joseph Green calling me. I had actually missed 2 of his previous calls and emailed him to say that he must call me at 2pm (his time) which would be 8pm my time. He was friendly and I was most impressed by his efficiency. He also said it would be a set fee of 685 dollars and I could pay in installments. Now multiply that by 8 because of the exchange rate. Because my product is something to help animals and not about the money, I was really going to go through with this. I’m so glad that I decided to do a bit of research on google because it seemed a bit odd that he was so sure that a corporation would like my idea especially since it was a concept that is a bit far fetched. He’s going to contact me next Wednesday but I don’t think I’ll answer the phone. Such a shame, I actually thought he was a nice person. Now that I’ve looked at their inventionland again, it’s so over the top!
Comment — September 19, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
Thank you so much for starting this blog and everyone else for sharing their horror stories. i am so glad i decided to do some research first and not get suckered in. Unfortunately, i believe one of my fried had be had….not just the $685, but thousand more for the prototype. I feel so sad for him and many on this blog.
I think i will have to take the long hard route in getting my idea come true…..no such thing as free money…got to work hard at it. One thing that is free…..information. Thank you all.
Comment — September 22, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
I too am grateful I found this site, which confirmed my suspiscion that these guys are too good to be true. I only got as far as the call where the $685 was mentioned. When I hesitated at this he told the truth for once, saying”Oh that’s the least of your worries!” I had discussed only the need for my particular idea, because I wasn’t really sure what sort of device I could come up with to solve it, and he made an appointment for a second call. By then I had read this site so I had my husband answer the phone and tell him I was no longer interested in dealing with Davison. He tried to find out why(although I am pretty sure he knew darned well why) but my husband cut him off and hung up.
Comment — September 27, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
I just got the inventegrationbeginshere packet from Davison employee Andrew Alper. I was going to send it to my attorney tomorrow for review but after researching the company, I found all of you.
WHEW, thanks. Dissappointed but now I will go to the SBA in my area and start the process myself. The US patent and Trademark office (online) also gives lots of free information.
Donna
Comment — September 27, 2007 @ 6:54 pm
This thread from Come Across was on the search engine I was using last night; guess what? It was GONE this morning! Almost every negative word had been removed and there were more positive entries of all kinds. I could NOT believe this! I wonder how much they paid to do this!
Comment — September 28, 2007 @ 3:37 pm
Yup, I’ve read about this. Companies with negative press can pay SEMs to create positive press that will overwhelm the bad articles. It’s pretty dishonest and sleazy of them. Fortunately, Google still has the right search results.
Comment — September 28, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
Yes I too sent in my 580 dollars to see if any companies would like to see a sample of my great idea. I was told the company they said was interested would have to see a product sample that would cost over 10,000. If they company was interested and said yes then I would get royalties. They make it all sound so wonderful but I backed out when I found scam reports on Davidson Design and at least 164 reports to the Better Business Bureau. I hope everyone else will investigate Davidsign Inventegration before parting with over 10,000.
Comment — October 5, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
I just want to send out a big thank you to all the people that commented on Davison Inventegration. First off I am sorry for your misfortunes in dealing with them, but I applaud you all for speaking up and making it so that when this company is searched online, by just its name, many websites exposing them as frauds pop up as well. Suffice it to say I will do no business with this company, and in the future I will share my experiences, good or bad, in any way I can, as all of you have done.
Comment — October 11, 2007 @ 3:34 am
Hi, I have been working with Davison Inventegration for several months involving an idea for interactive advertising that I developed several years ago and wanted to expand it’s marketting capabilities. All I got was estatic encouragemant from Davison. Their “Director of New Products -Jared Kamerer” was the only one I ever talked to. After reading the comments on this website, I am thinking that “Jared” is the same rep for everyone, but using different names. My idea is well protected, so I do not worry about them or anyone else stealing it. I am also convinced now that Davison Inventegration is one big SCAM. I have my idea completely laid out on my Web Sites and encourage visitors to print out samples… [The rest of this comment was edited by the site owner because of blatant advertising.]
Comment — October 18, 2007 @ 11:25 am
John, while I approve of hearing about your Davison story, I do not approve of your trying to advertise your services on my site. And I certainly don’t approve of subliminal advertising, as you indicate on one of your sites. Let this be notice to all others. I will remove such comments or the offending portions of those comments without notice.
Comment — October 18, 2007 @ 11:33 am
Raoul, I did not mean to be offensive, I was only trying to help. My idea is such that everyone can benefit from it. Without going into a long story about what I do, I can safely say that I understand how these people feel after being exploited by Davison. My product though, is a bit different as it is designed to help everyone else promote their product. As a result of this, Davison should have promoted this fact, which they did not. The idea works, I have used it for 15 years. I was only trying to give your readers a viable option, if they wished to try it.
Comment — October 18, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
Fair enough, John. Thanks for the clarification!
Comment — October 18, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
I just spoke to Jared Kamerer today by phone and I backed him into a corner. He told me that there are about 100 “Directors of new products.” (Yeah, Right). This apparently is the title they give CSR’s. After much hemming and Hawing on his part, I got him to admit that they do ask for Several Thousand Dollars down the road and this is the main reason they have such a high drop rate. He was not happy when I told him with what I knew, I was going to turn them in to the Attorney General. I also directed him to this site so he could see the growing number of disgruntled people Davison has dealt with in just the past few months. He didn’t like that at all.
Comment — October 19, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
well im also glad i found this site after wasting 685.00 i have left messages time after time and now the won’t call me back and i have since lost their #. if anyone has it please e-mail it to me at. toddneufer@hotmail.com thanks so much and also let me know if there is any other place to submit my idea. thanks todd.
Comment — October 24, 2007 @ 9:41 am
I to feel I was scamed.Thank god for his misterius ways.Last night when I tried to email the information they needed to proccess my credit card my scaner died.Then today my husband tried to fax it but the fax number wouldn’t go through.I came apon your site by accident but i’m glad I did.I’ve already spent 751..78 Canadian dollars but thier not getting a dime more.A lesson well learned.Sorry to all the other people in the same boat.Thanks for your web site!
Comment — October 26, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
Thank you all, I was ready to send $685.00. How can a company due that to people. I am sure all of us could agree we are just trying to secure our futures for our families or ourselves for a better way of life and if we can become millionaires that is just the icing on the cake. But we are not trying to rip people off like this company. My question is. How do you go about getting an idea to a company and them buying that idea? Any takers on this? Will take all advice.Thanks
Comment — October 27, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
See comment number 17.
Comment — October 29, 2007 @ 10:33 am
I remember long ago I think I heard about Davison and never thought about it. A few months ago I saw one of my idea on TV. Then Publisher Clearing House had their million dollar promotions and kept emailing me. After going through PCH’s links I ended up on the Davison website. I passed it up a few times until I just submitted my idea. Just recently I got my first email saying that they have been trying to contact me and that that would be my last email if I don’t respond and the case would be close. I replied and got another email with the attachment with the $685 pre-inventegration fee today. So since I am on the internet why not search Davison. Thanks for the heads-up.
Comment — November 17, 2007 @ 4:17 am
I too, along with an investment parter, was scammed several years ago by Davison. We unfortunately sent in over $13,000 total for the whole process. After the first company rejected the proposal, Davison kept coming up with alternate companies that had nothing to do with the product we were trying to manufacture. For each company, they demanded and additional $100+ dollars to redo the prototype so that it would be acceptable to the new target company. We did not accept any of the newly proposed companies. Davison told us they would continue to look for a new company, and would contact us. Needless to say, we never heard back.
What I’m most interested in, now, is finding out about the $26 million payout. Did they really pay up? Can former clients collect anything from this? I would appreciate hearing from anyone on how to go about recouping losses from this crooked company. Obviously I now have no hope of Davison ever coming through on the agreement. Even if I can only get some of my money back, I feel this is the best way to get them where it hurts….in their pocketbooks.
Comment — November 17, 2007 @ 6:43 pm
Well, I have sent in my idea but have not paid the $685.00 and I won’t be after reading these testimonials. I really wish I had found this link before I put my idea out there. I would like to know if all the companies out there are scammers or if there are some that are legit. I think most people are too busy trying to make ends meet to go to trade shows and pay for sometimes expensive prototypes etc. so I think there is a definate need for a company to step in and yes take a piece but get the great ideas that are out there to market. Can anyone out there recommend any company that is on the level??
Lambert & lambert was one I found that I could not find any dirt on but they still have the same sign up format but only want like $125.00 or somehting like that…???
I’m going to call them tomorrow and see what they have to say about Davison.
Comment — November 19, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Ok, I turned down Davison and found out about this other company Lambert & Lambert. They only require $175.00 and that is all they do not want any more money for each company they find for you the inventor or prototyping money etc. They actually only do the patent reasearch and the work finding suitable manufacturers\distributors. They do ask for a larger percentage of the royalties but that is because they do not make money from the inventor but rather from the invention royalties. You will need to get a leter of intant to patent which is only like $100 and although Lambert & Lambert don’t do it for you they can guide you through that. It some simple forms to fill out (I have not doen this yet so I’m repeating what I have been told about it).
They don’t even believe that prototyping is an absolute necessity and believe that the rigth manufacturer will have the means to do that part of the process.
You will need to get a patent before you enter into a licensing agreement with a manufacturer but that can be done at the point when you have a lisencing agreement and this step should be handled by a patent lawyer, whic can usually be paid for from money’s obtained through the licensing agreement.
This seems to be a more sensible aproach to the process given you can produce or have produced correct dwg’s or 3D models. I am an engineer so I do my own 3D and or 2D models but people with skill like that are all over the place and can be employed quite easily and relatively inexpensively.
I run a sole propriatorship and do mechanical design work on contract and charge $40\hr (starting) so you could expect to spend a few buck depending on the item but really the programs are realy easy to use and models can be made suprisingly fast.
Anyway I’m not bucking for work I’m too busy already but it is food for thaught. tfornelli@hotmail.com if you would like some more free advise on what you have and what you could do with it. I will pass on any further advise I get as I move forward with Lambert & Lambert.
Hope this has helped.
Comment — November 21, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
All I have to say is “holly shit” about (davisongetresults.com) davison54.com. So far I have spent more then $6000 and guess what I have never received any fruitful thing from them. About few weeks go they sent me copy of webpage (100+ pages) they said the company that will manufacture my idea. And I was so devastated, since I have spent that much money, I was patient, but after reading everyone article, I’m destroyed, that is my hard earned money. And I doubt I will get it back. So I have decided to take them to court if that will make any difference. If anyone is out there thinking of same thing, please do contact me at Reachme65@hotmail.com .
Comment — November 23, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Thank you all for your consistent comments regarding Davison. I answered the email inquiry then recieved 2 calls for me to call them and spend my time talking to them about my invention. I have not spent any money and I am thankfull I found this blog. thanks Raoul.
For the person who asked for their # I have “Ted Leggins”(?Director of marketing and product development.) at 1-800-544-3327 ext 50192
I did an inquiry with Inventhelp, who seem legitimate but they are looking for money up front as well, and they have a convenient payment plan ! which I did not get involved with. I will be checking into the Inventors Assistance League International and Lambert & Lambert. I hope to follow up here with my results and hope that others will do the same. Thanks Raoul for this forum to reach people and save significant financial hardship and personal despair. DS
Comment — November 28, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
I received the letter of CONFIDENTIALITY signed by G.M. Davison and a Inventegration Service Research Portfolio from Nicholas Kioalicas (Director of New Products, Ph# 800 544 3327 ext. 50007). Nicholas is going to call me tomorrow, however after reading all of the above comments, I am going to inform him that I do not want to do any further business with him or his company. Thank you very much for your wanderful web site.
Comment — December 2, 2007 @ 12:03 pm
Soooo, I just threw up in my shoe ! I got taken last year for 13000 and they just drag out the whole process. After one of the Director’s of new products (as there must be a couple of hundred of these guys) does a great job of selling there services, they turn you over to the marketing lady that sounds like your nice grandma. She tells you that the targeted company was not interested and that she will be in touch, so sorry! They then ask for more money to repackage (BS) the item for the new company. It’s been over a year and I’m only on the third company (aggressive marketing)! The crazy thing is that I have family that works at this company and he can’t even find where or who davison sent it(my product) to! The company is not that big ! Further investigating is being done , but man I feel like a moron. These people are good salesman praying on people’s hopes and dreams. That’s horrible. On good ol’ George’s video he states they pump out over 200 ideas a month that’s: 200 x 12 =2400 ideas x $12,000.00 average cost of scam = $28.8 million dollars of no guilt scam. I’m freakn out !
Comment — December 4, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
I first want to thank all of you for your comments on this Davison Company and their shaky owner. I find hard ot believe he can sleep at night but then I’m sure he has a number of fancy cars and multi-million dollar home, membership at Oakmount (this past years site of the U.S. Open)…Wait a minute…they wouldn’t take him in because their members stand for the common man/woman. OK, enough sarcastic humor because many of you lost a lot of money. It’s a hard lesson and we all unfortunately have stories where we’ve been taken. Thank God for the Internet and it’s ability to advise people. I sure wish I had Google back in the early 90’s where I lost 1000’s to a bogus brokerage company pitching a number of hot selling stocks. This isn’t much different, praying on all of us with hopes of making MONEY. I recently found Davison in my Inbox and I decided to see what this was all about. I had been tinkering with an idea about a protective cover to my car windshield which would eliminate the need for scraping frost and ice every morning in the winter. I was certain the product had already been invented but I can’t say I’ve ever seen one. You see lots of shields in the summertime to keep sun from heating up your interiors but nothing in the winter. I’ve been using a simple exercise mat and it works fine except when its windy. But onto Davison and their “Director of New Products”, Anthony Ambrogio who has called me 3 times and sent along the contract requesting the $685 to start their Inventegration. I’ve been very skeptical from the start because my idea is basically “off the cuff” and not researched more than 10 minutes on my part BUT they are ready to get started. Even the contract has my invention named in it…”Anti Windshield Frost Guard”. Thats funny because I’d have to look back and check to see if that was my name or theirs? What kind of company takes EVERY idea that comes across their mail servers or phone calls? I have my last call scheduled again this Friday and I can hardly wait based on the info I’ve read here and various other sources, all confirming Davison is BAD NEWS…be WARNED. It’s unfortuante that others will likely continue to be TAKEN for their hard earned $$$ by this company but hopefully blogs like this and searches on Google will teach people NOT to trust this company.
Comment — December 19, 2007 @ 11:55 pm
Thank you so much for this informative website. At first I was excited when apeaking with Mike O’Brien from Davison. He sent me out a very professional pamphlet along with some paperwork to sign and return with $685. The website is also very impressive. But when Mike started getting a little pushy about putting the $685 on a credit card either over the phone or via fax, I told him I would fax it. I waited a couple days, he called me back to make sure that I sent it out. I told him no, that I was going to wait until after the first of the year. I had asked him how much more it would cost during the process and he said “not much, not like it’s going to be tens of thousands of dollars.” I found this blog before sending them a dime! Thanks again!
Comment — December 20, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
I am another sucker that fell for this company. They got my $700 dollars then did the same thing to me. started talking about product development,packaging and paying for travel of their reps to go to manufacturers and such to take on production of the product. Of course I didn’t have the thousands of $$$$ they said it would cost so I cut them off. Well, the $700 didn’t break me but what really hurt was that by this time they had my idea. Now my idea is on the market today and I didn’t get a dime for it. In the past year I have seen many stores with variations of my idea. Go ahead and google it and you will see how popular it has become. “Charging station”, “docking station”. It is a desktop or countertop box that has a powerstrip plugin inside it and you set your cell phone, pda, ipod, etc. on it to charge and it hides all the wires.
Comment — January 17, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
I too received a spam from davison, What a JOKE! I feel sorry for all of you that fell victim to such a scam.. However there is light at the end of the tunnel for all of you inventors that wish to continue pursuing your dreams of one day having your idea patented.. Here’s some light! Although it is minimal I hope that the info below is helpful.. GOOD LUCK!
Affiliated Inventors Foundation
719/635-1234
$N/A
Encourages/assists inventors; Low-cost/free patent attorney and consultant services
American Society of Inventors
215/546-6601
$55
Works with government to improve inventor environment; encourages invention/innovation; sponsors educational programs
Intellectual Property Owners
1255 23rd St NW, Ste. 850
Washington, DC 20037
202/466-2396
Seeks to strengthen the patent, trademark, copyrights, and trade secret laws; monitors legislative activities; awards and publications
Inventors Assistance League, International
345 W Cypress St
Glendale, CA 91204
818/246-6540
N/A
Brings together inventors and manufacturers; helps bring products to marketplace; speakers’ bureau, museum, Hall of Fame
Inventors Clubs of America (ICA)
PO Box 450261
Atlanta, GA 31145-0261
404/355-8889
800/336-0169
Full: $200
Assoc:$50
Problem solving/inventing; patenting, development, manufacturing, marketing, advertising assistance; conducts research and education programs; speakers bureau
Inventor’s Guild
Box 132
Plainview, TX 79073
$100
Copyright/trademark info; research programs
Inventor’s Workshop International Education Foundation (IWEF)
7332 Mason Ave.
Canoga Park, CA 91306
818/340-4268
$139
Instruction, assistance, and guidance in patent searches, patent protection, developing and marketing inventions, etc.; conducts seminars and research; reference library
National Congress of Inventors Organizations (NCIO)
727 N 600 W
Logan, UT 84321
801/753-0888
$200
Inventor education programs; speakers bureau
National Inventors Foundation (NIF)
345 W Cypress St
Glendale, CA 91204
818/246-6540
N/A
Invention protection/promotion information
United Inventors Association of the USA
PO Box 23447
Rochester, NY 14692
716/359-9310
$75
Information on Patent Reform; grant information and referrals for inventors; Inventor’s Digest publication; active liason with the USPTO
Comment — January 22, 2008 @ 4:50 am
Thank goodness I reserched Davison. My representative there was named Steve Smith. Interesting that there is not one duplicate name for the representative. I was just about to send in the money for the initial search til I came across this website and did my research. Thank you for telling everyone your stories to save others from going thru the same thing. Everything that you have said in here I have heard from Steve Smith….same promises…same story.
Comment — January 22, 2008 @ 4:54 pm
I was also kicking around the idea of sending my invention idea off to Davison Inventegration (or whoever they are nowadays. After reading all your entries, I thank God I never acted on it. I’d like to return the favor and offer this advise. Check out any company that you plan to do business with by visiting the Better Business Bureau site - www.us.bbb.org. If they are not a member and in good standing runaway as fast as you can… I checked out Lambert and Lambert they are members and in good standing. I checked out Davison Inventegration, they on file with the BBB as Davison Design and Development, Inc. at Davison 54 595 Alpha Dr Pittsburgh, PA 15238. They are NOT MEMBERS have NUMEROUS complaints!!! The BBB also gives information about the 26 million dollar lawsuit against them.
Advise for all of us:
Make sure the company clearly post their address and telephone number on their site. Make sure they are located in an actual building and not working out of their homes. Finally, check sites like this one.
P.S. Those of you who have not yet filed your complaints with the BBB against Davison Inventegration… WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR — GET TO TYPING!!!
Comment — January 26, 2008 @ 11:42 pm
Thank you all for submitting your comments unfortunately, we found out about this web site now $ 10K plus dollars later into our relationship with Davison. We did see the Judgement of the $ 26 Mil. but that was in 2006 and there are a number of people with complaints on this company since then. Now we are not sure if we should continue our relationship with them after reading all this. It is heart breaking; how hard working people get taken by promising them better financial stability. Everyone needs to contact the Federal Trade Commission and file a report. www.ftc.org
Comment — February 6, 2008 @ 10:48 am
Wow, me too, theyve gotten to a lot of people apparently .
Glad this site is here , this is not a good testimonial.
Comment — February 8, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
Anyone who has done business with Davison after March 2006 and feels that given money to Davison and are unhappy with their services need to contact the Florida Trade Commission and file a report so that they can begin a new investigation for those impacted after the 2006, since we know there are quite a number of people who have posted messges in this web site after 2006, that feel they have been scammed. For more info on the 2006 Law Suit please call teh Federal Trade Commision Hotline and listen to their voice messge regarding Davison 1-216-263-3434. And they file a report with them either online or over the phone.
Comment — February 9, 2008 @ 1:24 pm
Hi everybody, I am from HK, I go searching for some techical information to my new inventing products and find a site www.davison.com.cn which is a Chinese website and I was firstly being excited by it and go on further search for their mother company davidson USA and reach to this site. I think this company is now using the same method in USA but take place in China, they have office in Shanghai. Luckily I go for a more detail reseach and not falling into the trap, thanks for all of yours’ information and I will try to post the link and information in some Chinese website (though may be having language barrier for some Chinese people)to give more alerts to others
Comment — February 13, 2008 @ 5:32 am
Davison took my money too. They are just scam artists.
Comment — April 4, 2008 @ 10:53 am
Hi all, you are doing the world a great service by exposing this scam company, as an unsuccessful inventor based in the uk and one that has spent hours researching other scam companies in the UK to persue my own inventions I kept recieving emails from Davidson after a brief enquiry many moons ago, the emails came every month so I thought I’d look into it, my first thoughts were yeah, nice web site but wheres the catch and then I came across this blog, thank god for you guys and good luck in your pursuits.
Just a thought…
I am a great one for team work and I’m sure many of us have now enough savvy to be able to pursue our ideas avoiding such companies so like I say it is just an idea but can we not work together to create something that helps us all, like I said previously, I am in the UK and struggling on my own.
If anyone has any idea of how we can work together for mutual benefit please don’t hesitate to email me, I have an idea…
All the best to you all.
Richard Nunn.
bridbay@hotmail.co.uk
Comment — April 4, 2008 @ 12:06 pm
Hi everyone, I just spoke with someone from davison on monday. He “loved my idea” Im so glas I found this site before I sent any money. Can they move along with MY idea even if I don’t???
Thanks
Comment — April 16, 2008 @ 10:05 pm
We have contacted an attorney and in order to present a class action law suit we need people to come forward and we need to gather up 50 - 60 people with similar complaints for the attorney to take the case. If you would like to participate in
this pool please email: surburban22@aol.com. Thanks
Comment — May 1, 2008 @ 10:13 am
I have an appointment with Mr. Robert in the next 20 minutes,(who liked my idea). I am a Kenyan and have given him a lot of African Ideas I have. Though I have not signed the contract. Thanks for this blog.Who is the genuine person to work with?
Comment — May 2, 2008 @ 6:29 am
Anybody who can assist me develop my Idea should get me on +254733779750. KENYA-Africa.
Comment — May 2, 2008 @ 6:37 am
Does anyone have any further information regarding Lambert & Lambert? A couple of you mentioned doing business with them. Were you successful? Their website looks legit, but so did Davison’s. Is it another case of too good to be true? Any input would be appreciated. They don’t have too many success stories reported on their website either.
Comment — May 11, 2008 @ 9:12 pm
Thanks Raoul,
I was almost deceived by this Davison Co. Unfortunately, I’ve been bamboozled by bozos like these before. As a result,I’ve learned to always consider the source. That’s why after i got spammed by these clowns, i googled’em, and thank goodness i discovered your site. Thanks again. For the record, if any of you children’s book writers ever get solicited by “Children’s Literary Agency” out of New York…. Don’t be fooled! They’re from the same school of “dirty rotten scoundrels.”
You’re out! Davison = (
Thanks Raoul = ) You Rock!!
Aaron
Comment — May 14, 2008 @ 11:58 pm
Please anable me to receive all these comments.
Thank you.
Comment — May 17, 2008 @ 4:04 am
David, the way to “receive all these comments” is to subscribe to the comments for this post. There was a little checkbox next to the comment field that you should have checked when you posted this.
For the benefit of everyone reading this, David Ponder is apparently from Davison itself. His email address is from that domain.
At any rate, I don’t know what David’s purpose is in posting here and asking to be kept abreast of these comments when all he needs to do is to READ them, but now that we’ve got his attention, feel free to air your complaints.
Comment — May 17, 2008 @ 10:34 am
if they are really a scam then they wont be getting my money wish i new this be i sent in my ideal
Comment — May 20, 2008 @ 5:04 am
For Jean M.: Lambert & Lambert works on contingency. Yah they have a fee to evaluate an invention but considering time is money, business expense, etc… -what do you get for free anymore. You’ll get an unbiased examination for much less cost the most. Stuff like prototyping, contract negotiations, travel, trade shows is on their dime when they see something to beleive in.
Comment — May 22, 2008 @ 4:24 pm
My Christian or full-disclosure sunshine idea for this kind of service is to have all these investment firms rated by “little guy” users as in Ebay. If you screw someone there will be a detailed comment. People will naturally go to the firms that treat the guy with no lawyers or experience better. Its outright greed and theft to take someones idea (baby) and put it to work in a slave shop and take away visiting rights from the parent aka idea grandchildren -Benjamins.
If you want to copy this idea then go ahead. Some to the church, saints, and martyrs when you get a chance.
Comment — June 6, 2008 @ 11:40 am